Legislature(2015 - 2016)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/08/2015 01:30 PM Senate FINANCE

Note: the audio and video recordings are distinct records and are obtained from different sources. As such there may be key differences between the two. The audio recordings are captured by our records offices as the official record of the meeting and will have more accurate timestamps. Use the icons to switch between them.

Download Mp3. <- Right click and save file as

* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= SB 26 Presentation: Overview FY17 Operating Budget TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled: TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 39 REPEAL FILM PRODUCTION TAX CREDIT TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 39(L&C) Out of Committee
+= SB 51 UNIFORM INTER.CHILD SUPPORT;PARENTAGE TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
<Above Item Removed from Agenda>
+= SB 15 LIFE INSURANCE POLICY PREMIUM TAX TELECONFERENCED
Moved SSSB 15 Out of Committee
SENATE BILL NO. 39                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act  repealing  the film  production  tax  credit;                                                                    
     providing  for  an  effective  date  by  repealing  the                                                                    
     effective dates  of secs.  31 - 33,  ch. 51,  SLA 2012;                                                                    
     and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:47:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BILL  STOLTZE, SPONSOR,  stated  that  SB 39  would                                                                    
repeal  the  film  subsidy (tax  credit)  program  currently                                                                    
operated  by   the  state.  He   thought  the   program  had                                                                    
benefitted   certain   groups   of  Alaskans   and   certain                                                                    
communities, but  had serious concerns regarding  the return                                                                    
on investment.  He commented  that there  were many  ways to                                                                    
stimulate the  economy more effectively, and  thought it was                                                                    
imperative   for   the   state   to   use   its   money   on                                                                    
constitutionally  mandated items  such  as education,  basic                                                                    
transportation  and  public  safety  infrastructure,  prison                                                                    
system reformation, public health, and retirement systems.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  related  that  he   had  questions  for  the                                                                    
Department of Revenue (DOR) regarding the bill.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  noted  that the  film  tax  credit  affected                                                                    
people  in  his  region,  and  asked  if  the  governor  had                                                                    
suspended the program.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
JERRY  BURNETT,  DEPUTY   COMMISSIONER,  TREASURY  DIVISION,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT  OF  REVENUE,  replied  that  in  the  governor's                                                                    
budget for  FY 16, there were  no funds to operate  the film                                                                    
tax credit  program. He furthered  that under the  budget as                                                                    
passed  by  the House  and  Senate,  the state  would  cease                                                                    
operating the  program on  July 1,  2016. Suspension  of the                                                                    
program  would  result  in  the  layoff  of  three  existing                                                                    
employees. He  furthered that  there were  approximately $38                                                                    
million  potential  liability  in tax  credits  outstanding,                                                                    
which would be  paid regardless of the passage  of the bill.                                                                    
He  specified  that  there  was   another  $172  million  of                                                                    
authorization  possible if  the bill  did not  pass and  the                                                                    
program continued.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:53:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked if DOR  was still accepting applications                                                                    
for the program. Mr. Burnett  stated that the program was in                                                                    
effect  through June  30,  2015; it  was  still possible  to                                                                    
submit an application, but approval was unlikely.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked about the  likelihood of  an additional                                                                    
application being  approved. Mr. Burnett thought  the chance                                                                    
of  an  application  being  approved   was  close  to  zero,                                                                    
considering the fiscal situation.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson pointed  out that  the program  had a  sunset                                                                    
date of 2018 and wondered  if the legislation to suspend the                                                                    
program was a  moot point. Mr. Burnett did  not consider the                                                                    
bill a moot  point, and thought that the  legislation made a                                                                    
clear point to the industry  that the program was decisively                                                                    
ended rather than merely suspended.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson commented  on the prior state  income tax, and                                                                    
suggested that if past legislative  bodies had suspended the                                                                    
income tax  with a  trigger point to  reinstate the  tax, it                                                                    
would  have saved  the committee  a  considerable amount  of                                                                    
work. He  wondered if  such an idea  could be  applicable to                                                                    
the film  tax credit  program. Mr. Burnett  was not  able to                                                                    
speculate on the subject.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:56:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop asked  if there had been  films scheduled for                                                                    
production  in Alaska  that had  since  changed plans  after                                                                    
hearing of  the legislation.  Mr. Burnett  had not  heard of                                                                    
any films that had done so.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:56:56 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:57:46 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon asked  Mr. Burnett  if he  could discuss                                                                    
the remaining balance  of the funds that were  set aside for                                                                    
the  program.  Mr.  Burnett  stated  that  the  program  was                                                                    
authorized with  a $200 million  cap. He specified  that the                                                                    
funds were processed as a  direct reduction in tax liability                                                                    
to  companies rather  than being  an  appropriation, with  a                                                                    
film company  receiving a tax credit  certificate which they                                                                    
would  in turn  sell to  a corporate  taxpayer. He  surmised                                                                    
that  of  the  $200  million cap,  there  was  $172  million                                                                    
remaining in the authorization should the program continue.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:59:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy  asked if DOR  had a position on  the bill.                                                                    
Mr.  Burnett relayed  that the  department had  not taken  a                                                                    
formal  position  on  the  bill,  but  considered  that  the                                                                    
legislation  would provide  clarity. He  continued that  DOR                                                                    
did  not intend  to operate  the program  regardless of  the                                                                    
outcome of the bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy  asked if Mr.  Burnett if he  could clarify                                                                    
the  difference between  a  tax credit  and  a subsidy.  Mr.                                                                    
Burnett explained that  a tax credit was a  reduction in tax                                                                    
liability  that   would  come   out  before   revenues  were                                                                    
received, whereas  a subsidy to  a program was  generally an                                                                    
appropriated amount of money available  to pay a company for                                                                    
doing  something. He  clarified  that  the companies  making                                                                    
films were not generally Alaska  taxpayers, so the state was                                                                    
essentially just reducing its revenue.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy asked if the  program behaved as a true tax                                                                    
credit rather  than a subsidy.  Mr. Burnett stated  that the                                                                    
program   behaved  as   a  tax   credit  from   the  state's                                                                    
perspective.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dunleavy  asked for  Mr.  Burnett  to describe  the                                                                    
original  purpose of  the program.  Mr. Burnett  stated that                                                                    
his understanding  was that it  was intended to build  a new                                                                    
industry in Alaska.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:01:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dunleavy  discussed  the  fiscal  note,  which  had                                                                    
indeterminate  fiscal impact,  and  read  from the  analysis                                                                    
section (copy on file):                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Expenditures:                                                                                                              
     The  original film  credit program  was established  in                                                                    
     2008  with a  sunset provision  of June  30, 2013.  The                                                                    
     aggregate  amount  of  film  credits  available  to  be                                                                    
     authorized during  the original 5                                                                                          
     million. Chapter 51, SLA 12,  extended the film program                                                                    
     10 years to  June 30, 2023 and  increased the aggregate                                                                    
     amount of  film credits allowed  to be awarded  to $300                                                                    
     million.   Three   positions   were  created   in   the                                                                    
     Department of Revenue to administer the program.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     The Governor's  FY 2016 Amended Budget  removes funding                                                                    
     for the three positions  which currently administer the                                                                    
     Film Office in the Department  of Revenue, at a savings                                                                    
     of   $346.7.    The   Department   will    absorb   the                                                                    
     responsibilities  of the  Film Office  into the  Excise                                                                    
     Tax Group within  the Tax Division. As a  result of the                                                                    
     funding changes  in the  Governor's budget,  the repeal                                                                    
     of the  film production tax  credit would result  in no                                                                    
     additional changes to personal  service since the three                                                                    
     positions currently administering  the program would be                                                                    
     eliminated  from the  department's budget  beginning in                                                                    
     FY  2016.  This  bill  provides that  any  tax  credits                                                                    
     preapproved  prior  to  July 1,  2015  would  still  be                                                                    
     allowed under  previous law.  The department  will need                                                                    
     to process tax credits  that were preapproved and which                                                                    
     have  2 years  to  submit a  final  application and  an                                                                    
     additional  year   for  the  state  to   challenge  the                                                                    
     validity  of  the  tax   credit.  We  anticipate  these                                                                    
     remaining  functions of  the film  office that  are not                                                                    
     repealed by  this bill  can be  implemented in  the Tax                                                                    
     Division using this existing staff and resources.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy  moved to report  the bill  from committee.                                                                    
[Note: The incorrect bill  number was inadvertently referred                                                                    
to during  the motion. Senator Dunleavy  restated the motion                                                                    
at 2:06 p.m. See below for detail].                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:03:53 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:06:17 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy corrected himself  and MOVED to REPORT CSSB
39 (L&C)  out of  committee with  individual recommendations                                                                    
and the accompanying fiscal note.  There being NO OBJECTION,                                                                    
it was so ordered.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CSSB 39 (L&C) was REPORTED out of committee with a "do                                                                          
pass" recommendation and with a previously published                                                                            
indeterminate fiscal note: FN1 (REV).                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 39 Alaska Department of Revenue - Alaska Film Office.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 39
SB 39 Guthridge - letter to legislature.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 39
SB 39 Public Testimony Daly - AK FIlm Group - Support.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 39
SB 39 Public Testimony Flavin Photography.doc SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 39
SB 39 Public Testimony Flavin Photography.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 39
SB 39 Section Version E.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 39
SB 39 Support Document - Email Allen Hippler 3-30 15.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 39
SB39 Alaska Film Office Annual Report 2014 with Signed Letter.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 39
SB39 Alaska Film Office Annual Report Worksheet.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 39
SB39 Legal Services Memo 15-211 and Amendment (2).pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 39
SB39 Letters of Opposition from SL&C.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 39
SB39 Letters of Support from SL&C.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 39
SB39 Sectional Analysis ver H.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 39
SB39 Status of Alaska Film Production Incentive Fy 2009-FY 2013.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 39
SB39 Summary of Changes.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 39
SB 15 Letter to Senate Finance re SB15 - 04 02 15.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 15
SB 15 Life Insurance Companies Licensed in Alaska.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 15
SB 15 Senate Finance DCCED response.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 15
SB 15 Sponsor Substitute Original Statute.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 15
SB 15 Sponsor Substitute Letter of Support.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 15
SB 15 Sponsor Substitute Research Alaska Life Insurance Facts.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 15
SB 15 Sponsor Substitute Research Copy of Life Premium Taxes.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 15
SB 15 Sponsor Substitute Research Life Insurance Industry.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 15
SB 15 Sponsor Substitute Research on AK Life Insurance Companies.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 15
SB 15 Sponsor Substitute Research on Revenue.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 15
SB 15 Sponsor Substitute Research South Dakota Law.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 15
SB 15 Sponsor Substitute Sectional Analysis.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 15
SB 15 Sponsor Substitute Sponsor Statement.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 15
SB 15 Premium Tax Rate by State.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 15
SB 15 Reserach Alaska Life Insurance Facts 2015.pdf SFIN 4/8/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 15